BuzzTouch has a great future but the only challenge for now are the Menu Screens plugins for android. I was so excited when I joined BT few days ago and decided to buy all the android plugins (I even wanted to make a donation if there was a donation button, oh! how excited I was!!) because will like to major on android app development but all the android menu screens plugins I bought did not work properly as I expected. Can someone tell the BT team to look into android Menu Screens plugins and refining them without which nothing serious can be done with BT in the area of android app development? Would have recommended BT to all schools and app developers in my country but not yet, if you were to take a look at Seattle Clouds Menu Screens(app Templates or Themes) for instance, you will notice how beautifully and polish looking their Menu Screens- app Templates or Themes are...

Do you have a link to the other menus? It's always good to have some inspiration when making plugins. Not sure what problems you're facing, but there are some bugs we are aware of. There's an issue with the way plugins are being updated right now, and once that is resolved many of the bugs should go away.

Thanks chris1! You see, The market should not have allowed plugins with bugs or should have locked up plugins with bugs with a notice to the buyer. How am I suppose to know that a suppose good looking plugin in the market has a bug? BT can't just allow things to be thrown into the market like that. BT house is growing very fast and good looking on the out side but when you come in side the house, you notice is not as good looking.

We used to have a stringent review process before plugins could be submitted, but we couldn't keep up with that and the pressing changes to the core with new os's coming out. So, we recently moved to a model much like the Android app submission model. It is up to each developer to make sure their plugins work well, and up to the buyers to hold them accountable via the forums and review system. Ultimately we believe this will result in more and better plugins. But the change is recent so bear with us as the entire community makes the transition.

> should have locked up plugins with bugs with a notice to the buyer Yes. If everybody knows that a plugin currently has issues, why sell it? Better to review and fix first, then continue to sell. Or at least, let the potential buyer beware of the current and transitory problems. Otherwise people will feel cheated, and rightly so.

Thanks chris1 for your quick responses, I agree, you see android is an open source but that does not mean you can just throw anything into google android market ...freedom is not really free... if BT has value and we value BT we must keep it clean and beautiful on the inside and on the outside- these two must agree, BT must be responsible to someone or something just like wordpress.

I suggest devs could release plugins as beta and offer a discount until reviews are coming in positive and developer feels the time is right to make it official release and raise price a bit. That way developer gets more feedback, more users who are happy as they know what to expect, better quality plugins, and a couple more opportunities for devs to make announcements :)

I agree with KennedyE and Dusko

When I joined BT, with so much excitement I bought all the android plugins as I want to major on android app development(of course, there were no sign of Beta in any of the plugins titles, so i thought i was good to go) because I believed so much in the company, then I sat down to develop apps and for a week I could not release one polished app(though I learned a lot of new things I never thought I could know about app development to be frank) even now as I am the kind of app developer that cannot settle for the average, I want the very best for my app users, of what use are all those great lessons and suppose good looking menu screen plugins I bought from BT if I cannot release one fine app? "Otherwise people will feel cheated, and rightly so." I remember a thread by @Vicentin where he egaged @chris1 and he almost felt as though BT was a Scam, even though we all know of a sure that BT is not a scam. I feel BT is not just ready for market with android app developers in particular...

@kennedye why don't you post your bugs? You will get more help that way as in my experience most of the members want to help... but you need to help them by giving objective information.

@pdog can you recommend one android menu screen plugin (you can hardly do any thing without the menu screens plugins in BT) without bugs and as truely polished, clean and good looking like those in seattle Clouds?

@kennedye sorry I'm just prototyping my app currently using home screen menu, and don't have the experience to suggest other plugins. Maybe make a separate post asking for suggestions re menu plugins, and keep this thread focused on reporting your bugs and getting help on them. Just a suggestion - it's your thread :)

Thanks @pdog for your concern. BT forum is Good and Great! If the Android Menu Screens Plugins can be as good and great as the forum, BuzzTouch will be the next and future AppPress just like WordPress...

I just made an app with the Menu Image Advanced for Android and I didn't have any problems with it. Keep in mind we are making apps, and there is a very high level of complexity involved. It is very difficult for developers to anticipate every bug on every single device and in every single environment. I personally know all of the developers who have submitted plugins to date, and I have never had a situation where the developer was unresponsive or unwilling to submit corrections to their plugins. This will change as we move forward with our open market, but Buzztouch will work to assure plugins are well-maintained. We also encourage users to leave reviews to support our work. If we do find that there is a developer who is either stealing code from other developers OR not responsive to issues with their plugins, Buzztouch will take away their developer code and they will no longer be able to submit plugins to our market. This is all brand new, so there are a lot of little bugs being worked through right now. This is the biggest transition for Buzztouch since we went from 1.5 to 2.0 a couple years ago.

Important discussion, for sure. What I've noticed is the join dates of the above concerned members is all after the BT Android core v3.0 was released. What this means is that you are all noticing some of the growing pains that everyone is experiencing right now. And two things are compounding to make this frustrating for you all : 1. With the Android core changing to v3.0, some plugins that worked perfectly in 2.0 need to be fixed for 3.0 and 2. With the recent change to an open market, there is no review process regarding any new plugin submissions. There are definitely pro's and con's to this concept, but it allows for the quickest growth in the market's offerings. Have a little patience, and feel free to report specific bugs to both the forum, and the plugin author. (something a little more specific than "Android menus not working") -Chris

Would this be the new Seattle Clouds menus that were mentioned in this thread? http://www.seattleclouds.com/discussion.aspx?thread=0ygxho7faf90njj5ipchvw3a&q= Note -- I just googled it, I have no other connection to Seattle Clouds, except that I know they are in the same business as Buzztouch.

Thanks Susan @ buzztouch, I could recommend BT to Schools, IT Training Centres, Churches, Organizations, etc., in my country if everything goes well as expected. Thanks @Stobe for digging somethings up. @Dusko what BT calls Menu Screen Plugins is what Seattle Clouds calls Application Templates if I am correct.

About one month in BT = 0 finished apps and more than 150 hours lost 2 hours in Seattle Clouds = 1 finished app I will expend a little more in design but my app is fully functional. Never heared before about Seattle Clouds but is good for me at this moment. The only negative point is the monthly payment. I will stay in touch with the BT gang because i learned a lot here and if in the future all is working fine i will pay for the membership and start to develope here. Sincerely, i prefer BT because i want to learn a bit of code and with SC you cannot learn nothing. Thanks Kennedy for mention SC.

In SeattleClouds.com, one app per month is 9.99, three basic apps or platforms -- 29.99 per month, 5 apps is 49.99 per months, unlimited apps is 147 per month, white label hosting (for your clients) - 599 per month. So, one app per platform per year is $119.88. Compare that to 30, 40, 50 or 80 bucks at Buzztouch per year, for a practically unlimited amount of apps. I choose Buzztouch on this basis alone, not mentioning that you get source code for yourself...

Plugin market is fixed. Download your project again and give it another try. If you still have problems let us know.

I just took a look at the Seattle Clouds website. Seem pretty limited and basic, but I didn't play around much either. As far as the menus - the thing they have going for them is menu templates already setup. But, I didn't see anything there that couldn't be done with Buzztouch plugins, provided you had some nice background images, logos and graphics to spruce your app up. If you see a particular menu on there (or anywhere else for that matter) that you'd like to see made into a Buzztouch plugin, let me know.

"I just took a look at the Seattle Clouds website... But, I didn't see anything there that couldn't be done with Buzztouch plugins..." I absolutely agree with you chris1, Buzztouch can even do far far better than Seattle Clouds (and its high time this happened in BT) if we are Serious with the Buzztouch Plugins Market- the Key that will lead to BT Success- because you see Aspiring developers came to learn how to develop apps and not just to learn how to fix bugs only. For instance, WordPress is nothing and empty without Good Plugins.

@Dusko, i have lost here more than 150 hours and i dont have nothing, do you want to talk about money? I have lost one month working on another projects on my company so i prefer to pay $9,99. The app i developed yesterday is for a newspaper and cannot be developed here because a rss reader plugin is needed. Do you think $9,99 monthly is expensive for an app for my newspaper? I am sure the first day will have more than 1000 downloads. By other way, here you need to pay for (usually non working) plugins. Are different sites so there are different conditions. And the best is at SC you have support, here you only have old documentation, a forum and unaswered posts for simple questions: <a href="https://www.buzztouch.com/forum/thread.php?tid=247027C5ADFF94657BD745A" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.buzztouch.com/forum/thread.php?tid=247027C5ADFF94657BD745A</a> I prefer to pay a little of money and have a great service. @Chris, thanks to you this site is live because you are giving support to a lot of people but you cannot compare BT with SC. For example, in BT there are 6 menu templates (only two are free), in SC there are about 20 menu templates (all free, you only pay for the app). I agree with Kennedy and BT have more potential but there is a long way until BT will be working fine for all. Regards and thanks for all

For example, in BT there are 6 menu templates (only two are free), in SC there are about 20 menu templates (all free, you only pay for the app). See, I wouldn't call that free - it's just a different pricing model. I'd rather pay $10 for the menu screen I need for my app and have permanent access to the code than pay $10/month for the app forever. $10 is cheaper than ($10xforever), right? BT does have a long way to go, no doubt. Now that the plugin market is love and automated, you'll see the number of plugins really grow. Like I said, find me a screen template elsewhere and I'll make you a plugin. CS gave me 3 or 4 plugin ideas last night. I'll work on a RSS reader for Android, as I see the need for it. (We already have a great one for iOS). When you look at CS or other places, ask yourself, how are they growing? Is their model to just add new templates, or are they rely trying to give you a better and more powerful product? We already have enough dreams at Buzztouch to keep us busy for all of 2014. Some people don't care about power and flexibility, so maybe it's a mute point. But if you're ever wanting to make an app that stands out, having access to the code is critical.

Yes, i prefer to pay $10 for the menu screen I need for my app and have permanent access to the code than pay $10/month for the app forever. But I don't like spend more than a week for install a plugin only because is cheap. I bought your menu image advanced plugin and after one week i can get it working with your help. You prefer that? That week have more value that if you hire a coder for that app. As i said BT and SC are very different, in BT need to rent/buy a mac computer if i want compile with xCode, in SC you dont need nothing. But in BT you have the source code and in SC you dont have nothing (this is an important point). I have solved (thanks to you and Smug) some of the problems. My main problem is that there is not a rss reader compatible with both operating systems. There are others bugs too (I have posted before a link to an unaswered post). If you can develope a RSS reader like the reader you can see at SC be sure that i will pay for it. Regards

Of course i dont want to devaluate your site/work. I only want to help you with my opinions to build the best tool.

I bought your menu image advanced plugin and after one week i can get it working with your help. You prefer that? That week have more value that if you hire a coder for that app. I do apologize for the issues you had. It was due to a temporary problem with the Buzztouch site that's now been fixed. I do prefer to work for a week helping someone get one of my plugins working, knowing that it will result in a better plugin for everyone going forward. It's not about the money, as the money from plugins is still pretty small. It's more about helping others to navigate the app industry. Keep finding bugs. Keep bringing them to our attention. Together we'll make some cool stuff. And don't devalue the time you've spent too much. It may have been filled with frustrations, but it was also filled with a lot of learning.

@chris1 is highly responsive- one thing I love about him... Thank you chris1! "SC gave me 3 or 4 plugin ideas last night. I'll work on a RSS reader for Android, as I see the need for it. (We already have a great one for iOS)." When will the 3 or 4 plugins and RSS reader for Android be available? I am eagerly waiting to see in BT market Menu Plugin Templates like those in Seattle Clouds. My advice: please focus on developing more menu plugins for Android than for iOS, remember we all know for sure that the mobile future belongs to Google Android.

Android RSS will be up later today. Pretty much done but I have some meetings to attend to first.

Sweet addition for Android! @chris1, what would we do without you?

"Android RSS will be up later today. Pretty much done but I have some meetings to attend to first." Thank you very much @chris1! When I begin to see in BT market android Menu Plugin Templates like those in Seattle Clouds, I will like to make some donation to @chris1 apart from recommending and buying the plugins and may I know how to donate to @chris1 when the time comes? Susan @ buzztouch, I think Buzztouch should hire or employ more android plugin developers to support @chris1... I really believe in BuzzTouch.

Android RSS is now available on the market.

Unreal Chris, so quick! This plugin have any configuration option? Background color, show thumbnail, or something? By other way, when the user click the link i see that is redirected to the custom URL plugin but, he will see the original website or only the content of the post? Thanks

You can configure the same basic options as most plugins. Can do an optional header image at the top. The post content can optionally be displayed on the screen under the titles. Clicking will use the Custom URL to go to the link provided in the post.

Also, if there's an <image> tag in the post, it *should* show that as a thumbnail icon.

"Clicking will use the Custom URL to go to the link provided in the post" Oh :-( A good RSS plugin must show only the content of the rss feed, not the original website. If the app show the original website dont have sense to use an app. At this post you will see what we need (we because some users need the same feature): https://www.buzztouch.com/forum/thread.php?tid=1BE9B4AC18866E06347B78F Thanks a lot

Makes sense - I'll add this in

Okay - added this feature.

Ha plugin design by forum post - nice work Chris!

Thanks @chris1, already bought it but have not tried it, just keep very good android plugins coming, you are blessed!

I was out a few days for my Chrismats holidays. Bought today the rss plugin for Android as Christmas present for me haha. Your new side menu is very good Chris1, and the Launch Screen by Jake Chasan is a very good tool for monetize apps, i hope one day will be available for Android too. Merry Christmas to all.

Happy Holidays, @Vicentin! I hope to see more different styles of android menu screens in BT Market too. Enjoy!

The Menu Context is not working with android v.3.0. I get an error in emulator.